“There is a Way” is a Unity TV Program Series with hosts, Rev. Dale F. Batesole and Rev. Arthur Hammons, and guest speaker, Gregory Penn DD (Siraj) of Aspire. It was produced during the early-1980s to early 1990s, and broadcast throughout the Los Angeles area featuring interviews with spiritual leaders throughout the community.

This is “vintage Gregory” in his efforts to help people, while also remaining true to the origin of the sacred Zen teachings from his quest to India to learn from the great Masters of that time. These programs were a prelude to and inspiration for the Aspire TV programs Gregory would produce in later years.